Highlights from Adnan Oktar's Interview dated January 30, 2011
Kanal Avrupa; Çay TV, 30 January 2011
(About the events in Egypt)
Hosni Mubarak is an atheist freemason. The regime is irreligious. It is Darwinist and materialist. Their language is one of hatred toward Muslims and devout believers. That is why they are unable to put up with Christians there also. To put it more clearly, they are under the influence of the dajjal. Hosni Mubarak is a man of the past, and his day is over. His hands are bloody and he is a wild man. (Regarding reports of the killing of protesters) Protests of this kind are literally an opportunity to shed blood. He can do that. The most he can do is flee abroad. But despite these events we still hear nothing about the Islamic Union from Muslims. In the absence of that, the same system will carry on.
Rashid al Ghannushi is a good and pleasant man, but there is nothing he can do on his own. Leaders are generally on by themselves. Even if they have supporters all round the world, they are still essentially alone. That is why when a genuine leader emerges he must be supported. That is why it is also very easy to overthrow leaders. Party leaders can easily be neutralized by the other side, especially in democratic countries. A single false accusation, a single word, a single speech can break them. That is why there is a need for genuine admirers and supporters. And there is little that Ghannushi can do by himself. The public will also rise up against him soon. One cannot get anywhere with such temporary solutions. The definitive solution lies in the way of the Mahdi. But they can never attain happiness unless they speak about that.
The world is completely metaphysical. Almighty Allah created the universe to be metaphysical. It looks physical, but it is really metaphysical. My brothers will see the truth of this in 2012, 2013, 2014.
Allah does not want a fanatical Islamic Union. If such a thing were possible, it would have happened centuries ago. Allah rejects that. Allah has always obstructed fanaticism, blocked it for the last 100 years. He permits a conception of Islam based on the Qur’an, along the lines of the Companions. Allah will facilitate such a union and opened the way to it. And this will happen with Hazrat Mahdi (as), insha’Allah.
TV Kayseri, 30 January 2011
America wants Turkey to establish the Turkish-Islamic Union. It wants it to establish Islamic Union. The major dailies in America reflect state policy. All the big U.S. dailies happily talk about Turkish-Islamic Union and describe it with great joy. Why should America not want it? Terror, anarchy and high costs of living will come to an end. They talk of Islamic terror, but there is no such thing. You cannot have Islamic terror. What America is most worried about will disappear. Why should America be uneasy? Turkish-Islamic Union means the enrichment of America. It means a stronger America, and them being able to live in security. And it means security for Israel. Israel has been in a dreadful state for 3000 years. They have always suffered. For the first time ever, they will be able to live in peace, through Hazrat Mahdi (as). For the first time ever, they will wake up and be able to worship in safety. Christianity will also be able to perform its religious obligations for the first time ever. The originals of the Torah and the Gospel will be found; Hazrat Mahdi (as) will preach to Christians with the Gospel and to Jews with the Torah. That is in the hadiths. Everyone will become Muslims in the wake of that. There is no other faith other than Islam. America will not adopt a policy of trying to obstruct that. Indeed, its policy is to encourage it. America and Israel want Turkish-Islamic Union. Why shouldn’t they? In Palestine, our brothers are divided. The matter will come to an end in a moment. Those barricades and everything will be blown away. There are giant walls in Israel, but by Allah’s leave we will tear them down with bulldozers.
The body does exist, but the body we perceive is a body that is a perception. We cannot have direct experience of the real body. When we touch it, we experience a body that is a perception. We can never have direct experience of our physical bodies. Nobody can. Only Allah knows physical bodies. We can only experience the soul, that part we experience as a perception.
Everything is in a person’s brain. A feeling of distance is given, and things look far away. A cup looks far off, and I have to stretch my hand out to it. A sense of touch is given, I lift the cup up and it seems to get bigger. This is a separate artistry of Allah’s. He first makes it small, increasingly small, and then makes it larger as it draws closer. This is a whole separate artistry. Allah brings the cup to and fro. He uses my arm as His instrument. There is no need for arms in paradise. You desire an object as if you were using your arm, and the cup rises up without your arm being involved. It will even speak if you so wish; it will come, let you drink from it and go back. It can even sing if you wish. It is Allah who creates the music on radio and television. Allah uses the knobs on them as His instruments for turning the sound on. It is Allah who directly creates the music. Allah knows the piece you want to hear, and since you want it, He creates that music using those controls as His instrument. But because you cling to natural causes, it is as if no miracle had happened. There is no pressing control buttons on paradise. Whatever piece you think of will play at that very moment. You see the person you think of at that same moment, immediately. You imagine someone, think of them, and they become real in that same moment. We can only imagine things very indistinctly. But there is no lack of distinction in paradise; everything is crystal clear. Allah speaks in a verse of the curtain being lifted. There is an oval curtain in front of us, one that everyone sees. It appears to be 3-D, because of which we imagine it to be far away. But it is not at a distance at all. Neither the Sun is far off, nor other people nor cars. They are all inside us. They are far off as objects. But we can never have direct experience of those objects. Because the originals on the outside are pitch dark and transparent. This is a fact that both believers and non-believers must accept. People will see this reality. They will understand it. These are things that will happen as of 2012. There will be a clarification in people’s brains.
Some people’s expectations of the Mahdi are of a world full of bigotry and extremism. Indeed, the reason for the reaction against Hazrat Mahdi (as) is because he is not a bigot. Hazrat Mahdi (as) does not have a bigoted and conservative conception of Islam in the sense we understand. He will import a conception of Islam that lifts our chains, and is warm and full of love and freedom. That is the reason why that scholar in Medina accuses him of apostasy. And that is the reason for the martyrdom of Hazrat Umar (as), because they defended that warm, sincere and loving aspect of Islam. There were extremist bigots at that time. The same as those that exist today. Rotten types. They martyred Hazrat Ali (as), Hazrat Umar (as), Hazrat Othman (as) and the 12 imams. They hate the ahl al-bayt and Hazrat Mahdi (as). Since they cannot express that hatred openly, they express it in round about ways. The reason why they do not wish to see Hazrat Mahdi (as) stems from their reluctance to see the ahl al-bayt rule the world. Because these people have a racist, fascist and lunatic mindset. That is why they do not want him. But Hazrat Mahdi (as) will impose the dominion of Islamic moral values with knowledge, science and ideas. Hazrat Mahdi (as) has no power of his own, but through Allah’s creation. The power is Allah’s. Allah will use Hazrat Mahdi (as) as His instrument.